French Justice Minister Christiane Taubira visits the United States
French Justice Minister, Christiane Taubira, appears on MSNBC’s "Mitchell Reports"
Washington, D.C., February 10, 2015
MITCHELL: Madame, thank you very much for being with us today. What is the meetings that you had with the Attorney General? What is the challenge for the United States and for France against this common enemy of terrorism?
TAUBIRA: First, it was a pleasure for me once more and an honor to meet again with Attorney General Eric Holder because last time it was in Paris, and we have a personal, professional, and also political relationship— very, very strong.
Our two countries, both of our countries, have been striken by terrorism. But also we are very willing to fight together so, we are increasing cooperation between our both countries and we know that our challenge is first to preserve our citizens’ security….and at the same time, not to sacrify democracies. That means to keep on protecting individual liberties.
MITCHELL: How can the French people be sure Paris will not be struck again by the kinds of terrorists who hit Charlie Hebdo and the supermarket?
TAUBIRA: No one can be sure, but we work very hard you know to prevent, and to forbid this kind of attack again. So we develop our methods in order to be able to survey people, to prevent this kind of attacks, and also to avoid a lot of young people to be receptive to kind of threat, this kind of speeches, and to attack their own people, their own citizens.
MITCHELL: What is the appeal of a group like the Islamic State or ISIS to these young muslim youth, in some of these areas outside Paris, for instance. Why don’t they feel more with France than with this terrorist groups?
TAUBIRA: We make a difference with muslims and people who are radicalized. And we observe that 25 percent of these people will go to make jihad and to attack, 25 percent of them are new convert. That means it’s really not a question of religion.
So, we have to tell again, all people, whatever they are, Muslim, jew-jewish, Catholic, any, either kind, we have to explain them that their country’s France and they have to organize our commune destiny.
MITCHELL: And as you’ve expressed it so eloquently, I mean France was founded and we learned from you on these principles of inclusion and enlightenment. So you have to guard against prejudice against Muslims. There’s also as you point out the, the rise of feelings against Jewish people and anti-semitism— people leaving France and, and going elsewhere, going to Israel. Is that of concern?
TAUBIRA: In France, we are, we are able, because in the past, we have been able to live together. We sometimes. But we must be conscious that what is more important, it’s the way we organize together for us and for the children who are going at the present time. So Muslim, Jews, and all, all kind of people— we are able to live together in France, because the French nation organized itself around citizenship.
You are French citizen and you take part of constructing the nation.